First-year employee Takumi Miura  (left) and Masayuki Togawa  (right), who was in charge of the S2000’s packaging
First-year employee Takumi Miura (left) and Masayuki Togawa (right), who was in charge of the S2000’s packaging

Looking at the S500 and S600 from the Perspective of Packaging

Both of you are in charge of packaging design. First, can you tell us what kind of job does packaging entail?

Togawa
Yes, automobile packaging design is something that may not be widely known. Simply put, the job entails creating the frame of the design: establishing the car’s concept, then following the concept to study elements for enhancing spatial value, such as the appropriate position for people to sit, a suitable cabin size, and the size and convenience of the luggage space. This defines the vision for the car. Based on this frame, we develop the design together with styling designers.

Hondaスポーツカー誕生60周年 長く愛される“S”の系譜に通じる基本思想とは

Miura
Besides the S2000, Mr. Togawa was also in charge of the first-generation Fit, N-BOX, and the previous model of the Civic Type R (FK8). He took care of me during my internship, and I continue to learn many things from him today.
I joined Honda because I love cars due to the influence of my father. My father had previously owned the S600, the S800, and now drives the S2000. I grew up, hoping to drive the S2000 someday. After starting work, I could finally drive my own S2000.

S500、S600をパッケージングの観点から見ると

The S500, S600, S800, and S2000—the “S” series is extremely important when talking about Honda’s history. Mr. Togawa, in working on the packaging of the S2000, how did you view the cars of the past?

Togawa
While I could not talk to the people who developed those cars back then, I was truly impressed when I analyzed the cars. A car called the SPORTS 360 was exhibited at the Tokyo Motor Show in 1962. This was a car that was developed as Honda’s first passenger car. It was a sports car developed according to the specifications for mini vehicles of that time. At that time, a law for temporary measures to invigorate specific industries was being considered, and there was a possibility that new players could not enter the automobile market. It became necessary to launch cars before this law was passed. In the end, this law was abandoned subsequently.

In other words, Honda needed to develop our first passenger vehicle within an extremely short period of time. Even amid such circumstances, looking at the SPORTS 360, I felt that it is a car that took a very challenging and unique approach, even from our perspective today.

SPORTS 360 (replica)

Miura
From your perspective, what were the challenging areas?

Togawa
Under the mini vehicle specifications back then, the vehicle width must be less than 1.3 m. Honda was trying to develop a front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sports car limited to this size, and a large center tunnel was needed to fit the propeller shaft for transmitting motive power from the engine to the rear wheels. After placing the tunnel, it was also necessary to ensure that the driver can adopt a posture to properly steer the car. I was surprised that the packaging was so well thought out amid these limitations.

Of particular note is the location of the steering wheel in relation to the driver’s seat. The steering wheel is placed relatively closer to the center in consideration of factors such as operability when steering. Meanwhile, the seat is placed more to the side due to the presence of the center tunnel. Their centers are thus slightly off from each other. I think the development team back then arrived at this arrangement after much thought. In the S2000, we were able to place the seat and steering wheel with their centers aligned in a straight line. I remember that, during development, it felt like we were talking across more than 30 years in time to our predecessors back then, saying, “This was actually what you wanted to do, right?”

S500、S600をパッケージングの観点から見ると

Miura
Did the S500 and S600 that were subsequently launched also inherit the basic structure of the SPORTS 360?

Togawa
Yes, the S500 was developed in parallel with the SPORTS 360, and at the time of the show model, they had almost the same design, with the difference being the length of the trunk. While the S500 that was sold and the subsequently launched S600 were made wider, you could still see traces of the SPORTS 360.

Among these traces, I think the chain drive showed the beauty of packaging. The chain drive uses chains to transmit driving force from the differential gear to the rear wheels and is mentioned as a feature of the S500. I think it was originally a solution for the SPORTS 360—which has a length of 3 m—to overcome the limitations of the mini vehicle specifications back then. Through a structure that used a chain, space was created between the left and right tires. In this space was placed the spare tire, which was mandatory back then.

SPORTS 360

Togawa
They probably took great pains to think about how to fully use up the limited space. What is truly amazing is that this even contributed toward the consolidation of mass, where heavy objects are gathered at the car’s center of gravity, helping to improve dynamic performance.

Miura
Who would have thought that creativity and innovation in packaging would lead to an enhancement of the car’s value!

The “S” Spirit Flowing in the S2000

It is fascinating that you can read so much from packaging. How were the thoughts behind Honda’s sports cars, found from such analysis, used in the development of the S2000?

Togawa
The concept of the S2000 was “a new-generation convertible sports car .” It pursued new driving performance using an unprecedented concept: a body exuberating the openness of a convertible, dynamic performance that achieves the joy of driving at a high level, and social compliance, which is to meet all of the latest safety and environmental performance requirements of its time. We sought to create a product that gives the great feeling of driving a sports car and a sense of unity with the car on top of achieving leading-edge safety performance for its time.

Miura
In terms of size, it eventually exceeded the size of a mini vehicle, but we put emphasis on being lightweight, which is a characteristic of the “S” series, and sought to make everything as compact as possible.

S2000

Miura
The models in the early days of the “S” series could be said to have three common traits: FR (front-engine, rear-wheel-drive), two-seater, and convertible. Were these points also in your mind?

Togawa
Of course! I have also driven many different cars, and an FR car is characterized by being very straightforward and easy to control, making it easy to learn how to drive. In other words, I want to explore ways to make driving more enjoyable. This is linked to the joy of driving.

Furthermore, in a two-seater, the driver’s hip point (sitting position) is closer to the rear wheels. This helps the driver to directly understand information from the tires, such as whether they are gripping the road or drifting to the sides, allowing them to enjoy interacting with the car. There is also the joy of driving while basking in the openness of a convertible. This can be experienced regardless of speed, whether cornering or cruising. Besides being lightweight, we undertook development with a special emphasis on the three traits of FR, two-seater, and convertible.

Masayuki Togawa

Miura
I also feel that everything can be directly felt when actually driving the car. No matter what I do, I can feel the car’s reaction directly and immediately.

Togawa
That was actually what we were aiming for. We wanted to achieve the ultimate sensual performance while meeting safety performance. Sensual performance is about pursuing the feeling of the M/M concept *, a value offered by Honda. In other words, it is about how to feel the joy of driving. The test team at the time had many detailed indices, refining the taste of its driving performance while objectively comparing it with various other cars so as to avoid being confined to Honda’s subjective views. I can proudly say that the S2000 had the world’s best sensual performance among cars of its time.

* M/M concept: M/M stands for “Man Maximum, Machine Minimum” and expresses Honda’s basic philosophy regarding the making of cars, which is undertaken from a human-centric approach of maximizing the space available for people and minimizing the space required for mechanical components.

Today, and the Future—The Vision for Honda’s Sports Cars

Since the S2000 was launched in 1999, 25 years, or a quarter of a century, have gone by, yet it continues to be driven over this long period as a beloved car even today.

Miura
The S2000 came into my life when my father bought one. I think it was when I was a second-year student in university. My father thought he had reached a new stage in child-raising, and I remember him trying to convince my mother by saying that this would be his last car.(笑)。

It also led me to obtain my driving license. In a way, you can say that I got my license so that I can drive the S2000. Subsequently, I bought a Honda Today mini vehicle to practice driving a manual transmission car and drove it around a lot. I drove it to different places, slept in the car, and interacted with other car lovers. In the process, I came to feel that owning a car enriches a person’s life, and I started thinking about working at Honda.

Takumi Miura
SPORTS 360

Togawa
How did you feel when you first drove the S2000?

Miura
There was a time when my father was living away from the family due to work. I felt the need to help him work the car when he was not around and thus had the chance to drive the S2000 once a month. I could feel the difference thanks to having driven the Today, and the body’s sense of rigidity was totally different. Its acceleration, which felt like being pushed from behind, was also exhilarating. And it looked cool. You do not often see cars now with such a wide front bumper, and I think it is a car that is packed with all kinds of charms.

Togawa
As someone who was a member of the development team, this comment makes me really happy. The role of packaging is to think about how the car will be used. Hearing a story that connects the driver or owner to the car like this makes me feel that we were spot on in our goal and fills me with emotions.

Miura
I have my own S2000 now, so I drive it like every weekend. When car lovers gather, there are many young people like me. Among them, S2000 is exceptionally popular, and I feel it is a car that is loved across the ages.

Masayuki Togawa, Takumi Miura

In recent years, the environment around cars has changed significantly. Going into the future, is there a possibility that, for example, the S2030 will make its appearance?

Togawa
To us, “S” is a cherished icon. The era from the SPORTS 360 to the S800 was mainly the 1960s, while the era of the S2000 was mainly the 2000s. Cars sporting the “S” at the start of their names always exemplify an image that is slightly ahead of their times. Therefore, if the “S” name is going to make an appearance in the future, I hope it will show up as a car that is steps ahead of its time.

Miura
My reason for driving the S2000, besides an admiration for it, stems from a desire to one day be involved with sports car as I am working in automobile development now. I think this is the time for me to drive many cars and keep absorbing knowledge about driving and lifestyles with cars. I look forward to the time when I can apply the knowledge gained into Honda’s sports cars.

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